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control. the reason i focus on the body is because you can focus what's happening in here. if you can control what's happening inside your body, you can change the world outside of it. that's the mantra we need to take into the new year. >> how much of it is mental? >> mental is where you win it all. if you look at the root cause of so many of the problems we face in the lives, it starts up there. you want to start with small, actionable steps. if you realize the sacredness of what we were given when we were born, the uniqueness of this valuable inheritance and treasure it as the temple of the soul, ta louse you to realize this is what all the action really is. it is very core. it is not about competing in the journey of life but about taking a small time-out and realizing the wisdom of how beautiful whatever we were handed is and it takes us to the true bliss of life. >> my own discipline, mental strength, six weeks time, you are coming back and those numbers are coming down. thank you. that's all for tonight. good night. [ applause ] .
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good evening, everyone. it is 10:00 here on the east coast. we begin keeping them honest with a story that is hard to believe. nearly one month to the day after the horrific shootings in newtown, connecticut, tonight we expose a number of people that claim that the sandy hook shootings were staged. now, there are always conspiracy theorists lurking online that come out with some horrific claims. normally, we wouldn't dignify them with air time. these are sickening to many in newtown that have spent the last few weeks crying and consoling and trying to figure out how to restart their lives. normally, we wouldn't mention these theories. at least one of the people who is peddling one version of this conspiracy theories i a tenured
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associate professor at tlflorid atlantic university. his name is james tracy. he claims the shooting did not happen as reported and may not have happened at all. here is what he wrote on his personal blog, and i quote, one is left to inquire whether the sandy hook shooting ever took place, at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation's news media have described. tracy makes the case, if you want to call it that, that news organizations and the government may have worked together to dupe you, the public, in order to gain support for gun control laws. he is even suggesting that the government may have hired trained crisis actors to aid in this ruse. he is not convinced the parents whose children are killed are really who they say they are. tracy suggests they may have been, and i quote, trained actors working under the direction of state and federal
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authorities and in coordination with cable and broadcast network talent to provide tailor-made, crisis acting. he cites a company called crisis actors that provides actors to use in safety drills and the like. apparently, that is supposed to bolster his case. there is such a company and they are appalled by his comments. they said, we are outraged by his deliberate promotion of rumor and innuendo to link them to the sandy hook shootings. none are as a world world event. when a local reporter caught up with him, he said -- listen. >> you had 20 families that were mourning that buried children, are you concerned about that at all? >> well i >> well, i think that the entire country mourned about sandy hook. yet, once again, the
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investigation, the journalistic institution should have carried out never took place, as far as i am concerned. i think that we need to, as a society, look at things more carefully. perhaps we as a society been conditioned to be duped. >> i don't know what that means, what he is saying, what the words coming out of his mouth mean, to suggest the reporters on the ground didn't work to find out what happened on the ground is beyond crazy. everybody asks questions. that's what we do. journalism isn't a perfect science. to suggest that the shootings didn't happen, that 20 children weren't killed and that they aren't suffering and still suffering, tracy is not the only one spinning conspiracy theories on youtube and online. this is from a website i don't want to use. some are claiming that 6-year-old emilie parker killed in sandy hook didn't actually die. now, as proof, they point to a
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dress she was wearing in a family photo before the shooting. it's the same dress that emily's little sister wore when president obama met with victim's families. so the people online, these conspiracy theorists are saying that is actually emily on president obama's lap. it is a sickening claim. there is no other word for it. there is another one on another website that they use an interview that noah posner's mother did on this program to make its point. here is some of the interview. watch the conversation i had with her first. >> how are you holding up? >> most of the time, i'm kind of numb. i think about -- i think every mama out there can relate to the fact of how long it takes to create a baby, those nine months that you watch every ultrasound and every heartbeat.
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it takes nine months to create a human being and it takes seconds for an ar-15 to take that away from the surface of this earth. >> this website says that she appeared way too composed, that she wasn't crying, her eyes weren't red and that's not how a grieving mother looks, which is among the most ridiculous things i have her. i have interviewed so many people in grief and i have experienced grief myself and to say there is one way someone should grief is beyond ignorant. unless you frequent these websites, you probably never see them and we would never mention them. james tracy is a tenured professor at a public university. taxpayers pay part of his salary. in newtown and beyond, his comments are triggering intense outrage as you can imagine. she took aim at florida university to say, shame on you to have someone like this on your payroll. i can assure you that the events
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here in new ntown reported. we invited professor tracy to come on the program. he is a professor and talks in front of students. we would think he would be willing to defend his thesis. he declined. our invitation stands. john zarrella went to try to find him. you went looking for this professor. we would like to offer people a platform, if they have an argument that is valid, we want them to express it and see if it holds up to scrutiny. you caught up with him. what did you learn? >> anderson, we tried again to get him to come on to your program live this ink or at the very least to give me an interview on camera to explain his position. professor tracy said that he just was not willing to do it at the time. >> at this time. >> so we went to his house this afternoon and he respectfully declined to come outside and
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meet with me or talk with me at all today. he did say during two telephone conversations i had with him today. during the first conversation i had with imhad, he said that he would provide me an e-mail response to some of the criticism that he has been under, the fire that he has been under. he says in part in his e-mail response that his observations have been reduced to headlines and sound bites placing him in a severely negative light. he goes on to say he is confident he has put forth questions befitting any decent and reflective citizen, journalist or scholar. he concludes by saying, i apologize for any additional anguish and grief my remarks and how they have been taken out of context and misrepresented may have caused the families that have lost loved once on december 14th.
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the most profound memorial we can give the children and educators that lost their lives on that day is to identify and interrogate the specific causes of their tragic and untimely demise, end quote. anderson? >> so i know you also asked the president -- by the way, what is he a professor of? media studies or something? >> yes, yes, in the department of communications, that is correct. >> interesting the guy in the department of communications does not want to communicate to the media or address this in the media. you asked the president of this college, what did she tell you? are they standing by him? >> we talked to president mary jane saunders. they are clearly distancing themselves from professor tracy. >> we want to make it very clear that he was speaking as an individual. he was not speaking in his role as a professor at fau. the university has a very different statement about the
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shootings, the terrible tragedy that took place in newtown, connecticut. the university does not support this position and i personally am heartbroken about the additional stress to these families at this time. >> now, there is no word on what the university could or would do, anderson. he is a tenured professor, as you mentioned, and, in fact, the blog that he writes on is not in any way affiliated with the university. >> people are free to express themselves as they want. i think if he is a legitimate professor, he should be able to defend his statements. i want to reread what he said on his personal blogging. in that statement that he gave, it is sort of kind of a nonapology, apology, the old, i'm sorry if i offended someone with how my statements were taken out of con text. he says from his personal blog, one is left to inquire whether
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the sandy hook shooting ever took place at least the way law enforcement and the nation's news media described. there may have been trained actors working under the direction and authority with the nation's news media. i don't know how that would work, that the news media would somehow meet with government officials and then somehow hire crisis actors who i've never even heard of to then go into newtown, no one else noticing, and somehow pretend to be grieving parents, pretend to be law enforcement personnel. it sort of is stunning to me. >> you know, it certainly seems stunning and outlandish. he said also in the note, the e-mail that he sent to me, that the news media failed to thoroughly investigate every aspect of what happened in newtown. so, clearly, it seemed by his
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statement that we had there, his last statement, that he is at least attempting to back away from some of what he wrote, those really strong remarks that he wrote in that blog. >> also, to say failure to investigate, yes. you don't have access to the crime scene. you cannot go in and measure things and take blood samples. you are in some ways rely on government officials, law enforcement officials. i talk to grieving family members who heard from -- it's very obviously upsetting to a lot of people that were there and spent a lot of time there and are still there dealing with the aftermath coming up to the one-month anniversary. we continue to extend an invitation to this associate professor. it would be interesting to hear what he has to say. i appreciate your reporting and spending the day trying to track him down. the political reporter that did the early reporting on this
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story, where we initially heard this stuff and jonathan kay of the national post "among the truthers." it is hard for me to wrap my mind around these theories. it is not like they are coming from one person or group. there are websites all devoted to these absurd theories. >> there is a surprising universe out there. if you google emilie parker's name, the girl you mentioned who the conspiracy theorist thinks is a live was a conspiracy website. one of the most polished videos was produced by a 9/11 company that got a lot of attention. it has almost 200,000 views on youtube. alex jones, who went off against piers morgan the other night, his website has a whole community forum session where there are dozens and dozens and
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dozens of postings. this is a real strain within the movement out there. these paranoid people that think the government is coming to snatch their guns. >> off camera, we talked to a number of families today who didn't even want to come on camera because they are too upset to address this. the fact that emilie parker's family if they google her name or anyone that knew emilie parker google's her name, the first one that would come up would be this sickening conspiracy theory based on the fact that her sister wore the same dress that emilie parker once wore to meet with president obama, that is just adding insult to injury. jonathan, why do we see conspiracy theories pop up in the wake of tragedies like this? is it that people can't wrap
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their mind around something like this that would happen or is this people that believe that the government is trying to take their guns and this is just a way they are trying to take? >> conspiracy theory is explanation for evil. people rate random evil. they like the idea that evil is focused in some group of people, jews, muslim, the free order of masons. they love that there is one ceral order that is causing all the evil. once they have identified the evil, they believe somehow they can fight it and expose it. >> the other thing, alex, that is so idiotic about all these conspiracy theories, nothing remains secret for very long. the government can't keep things that are classified information secret for very long. the idea that the news media is in cahoots with the government and that there were secret
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meetings to hire crisis actors to get them there is so ludacris. did you notice a common strain when you were looking into these conspiracy theories regarding sandy hook? >> there absolutely is. the vast majority of them. there is different variations whether it was directly an obama administration plot or agents loosely tied with the liberal movement or even george soros. the common thread is that the tragedy was a false flag operation in order to make the country willing to give up their guns. in other words, this tragedy would happen and then we would have a discussion about gun control as we are now and then this would lay the ground work for the government to come in and take guns for some kind of future tyranical regime. >> the internet has allowed this stuff to ignite in a way never has. there have always been
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conspiracy theories. this has allowed more isolated people to find each other, right sf. >> absolutely. one of the chapters in my book i talk about how the internet has turbo charged the conspiracy movement. the big challenge used to be getting the word out. now, they don't try going to the mainstream media but they publish it on their website and can create their own echo chambers of paranoid individuals that share the same distress. the majority of the sandy hook revolve around gun control but there is a large contingent that believe it is an israeli television. >> how did the israeli's get involved? >> the idea is that it is a masad operation. these are people that have identified evil. they think it is the jews,
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israel. so they find some way to trace any evil act, whether it is 9/11, the financial crisis, they find some way to believe that all the evil was caused by this one group who they hate. >> you divide conspiracy theorists into two camps, cranks and fire brands. >> the fire brands are the younger people. like you see on 9/11, the truth movement. you often see them on university campuses. cranks tend to be older types, people in their 40s and 50s. often they are college professors, computer scientists, often people with a very technical frame of mind that are drawn to these intricate conspiracy series and they are often often men. one was david ray griffin, a
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very mild-mannered guy. they love the idea they are unraveling some huge puzzle. they will get to the the source of all the world's evil. >> it is just unbelievable jonathan and alex. joining us right now just called in is eric o'lafferty, the daughter of dawn hochsprung, who was killed in the shooting. >> it is just kind of amusing to me on evidently. i was looking for a video online and i found a ten-minute youtube video about some actress that they were saying played my mom in the shootings and he was like photo shopping like an arm from the sunglass band on her head and saying the crease from her
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hair matched the actress's sunglass crease. my mom had short hair. she hadn't had long hair for more than a year at that point. their lack of information that they are putting in to create this conspiracy theory, it is no the accurate information he is using to formulate it. it is ridiculous. >> we wouldn't normally discuss these conspiracy theories. we are not naming these websites because i don't want to increase their traffic. the fact that an associate professor from a university is throwing out the idea that maybe crisis actors were somehow hired to, i'm not even sure, to do what, does that -- when you hear that, coming from an associate professor, erika, what do you think? >> i think it is a disgrace to the community of educators worldwide that someone would belittle the entire situation, belittle the 26 families,
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belittle the poor sandy hook staff members that had to live through that day. honestly, it is doisgusting to me. >> do you think the university should do something or people should know about it and move on? >> i briefly saw someone who was from the university saying that, you know, this didn't have any affiliation with them and hearing them speak out and say that they are not supporting it is good to hear but to have someone like that on staff, i know the university i work for definitely wouldn't doll rate that awe. we know how difficult anniversaries are that you and our family members have to hear about this stuff and deal with this kind of stuff. i appreciate you taking the time to call and i wish you the peace. i wish you the best. >> thank you very much and thank you for voicing the truth. >> thank you, erika. i appreciate it. daughter of dawn hochsprung, the
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school principal at sandy hook. let us know what you think. do you think this guy should -- is this just free speech or should the university do something? let us know what you think. our invitation stands to the associate professor. up next, is there a loong betwe link between gun violence and gun videos? ♪ [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses
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the notion that gun violence has more to do with video games than the real once. vice president biden met with them today. people are concerned that bloody games, gorie movies are doing bad things to our kids. you can see why culture would be part of the conversation about preventing another sandy hook. pro or anti-gun, prep can or democrat, a lot of people agree on that. >> vicious, violent video games with names like bullet storm, grant theft auto, mortal combat and splatter house -- >> the violence in the entertainment culture. >> what about the violence in our video games. >> the depiction of these assault weapons again and
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again -- >> violence, the realism you find in games and movies. >> the corrosive influence of a violent oriented world. >> you get the idea. now, keeping them honest, there is not a lot of good science behind them. because of that, different studies have reached different conclusions. two headlines with comprehensive reviews tell the story. first, from iowa state university, they prove conclusively that violent video game play makes more aggressive kids. here is one from the technology site. meta-analysis uncovers no real connection between violence and gaming. each come to totally opposite conclusions. as video game sales have soared, violence by males age 10-24 is going down, plummeting. there is also the fact that many other countries with big sales of violent games have very low
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rates of violent youth crime. given all that is focusing on links between bad actors, is that true. mary o'toole is the author of dangerous instincts used to avoid unsafe situations. you think there is a link between violent games and violence? how so. >> i do. for a small group of troubled adolescents or young men, in my experience, with these kind of cases and in my research as an fbi profiler, i have found that there is no the a cause and effect. they did not cause violence but for these young people who were already contemplating carrying out acts of violence or acting out towards others in a violent way, these videos and very violent websites and violent movies can actually fuel what's already there. it can help them desensitize to
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acting out violently. it helps them erode at their sense of empathy and compassion. it is for this small group of people considering acting out violently. >> request there is this group of disturbed people you were describing, if there weren't violent v violent video games, isn't there something else that might push them over the edge? >> i wouldn't suggest these videos are pushing them over the edge. we don't look at whether or not they are looking at violent videos. violent behavior is very complicated. we look at, for example, are they saturated in a world where all they do is consider violence. in the research we did in the bureau in the late 1990s and 2000, was, was there a constant, preoccupation with violent themes in every aspect of their life. that was one of many variables
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that enabled us as thread assessors to say this threat that they are posing really elevates it to a high level of threat. it is one of many. we don't think it causes it but for that troubled group who is already thinking about it and thinking about acting out violently, it can fuel it. it's not just video games they are talking about. somebody who is a disturbed individual might be drawn for to violent video games and movies and tv shows. >> it is very difficult to at this point say if someone is obsessed with violent videos, it is predictive. it is not predictive. we have to use it as one of many variables we take into consideration. this person here is one we are more concerned about because of all of these factors. this person over here we are less concerned about because of aum of the all of these factors.
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mary ellen o'tol o'tolle, i appe you being on. there are plenty of steps you could take. the question being, which ones work and, as always, which ones, if any will congress agree on. the number of hard line nra support is have signaled their openness to regulating high capacity magazines but not military style rifles. with me, charles blow and ralph dalsted. this focus on video games, does it feel more like a stand in for those that think criminals can get their hands on deadly weapons is the bigger problem or the culture that produces the criminals? >> in the case of joe biden and the task force, they are trying to give the impression they are covering all the cultural bases. i feel like there is almost a general consensus on the video
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game question where a lot of people would agree with the profiler and say it is not surprising to see an association in particular cases between video games and violence. that doesn't mean in the aggregate. the spread of violent video games are causing murder rates to go up. pretty obviously, they are not. neither here nor around the world. i think with video games around the world, it is similar to the debate we had in the '80s and '90s. there may be something where those kind of things, be it pornography or video games, end up serving for an outlet for people that are depraved and disturbed to act out fantasy rather than in real life. it is a situation where as a society, we almost need to be able to say, violent video games, hard core porn, these things are bad, even though they aren't necessarily causing the crime rate to go up or the rate
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of sexual violence to go up. we are always looking for more direct connections. >> do you see a link? what do you make of this? >> i think that the profiler was right in a sense that it probably adds to a person who is already disturbed, already pushes that person a little bit further. i do think the idea that it desensitizes us as an entire culture is a very important point to make. another point to remember when we look at shootings and killings even though murder rates have gone down, the shootings continue to roise. we are better able to respond to shootings, better medicine and trauma centers. we need to take the focus off of who is getting killed and why that number keeps going down and look at how many people are actually getting shot and whether or not those shootings, which are on the rise, can be
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pinned to anything, whether that be a proliferation of guns or a violent culture. >> do you think anything will change? do you think there has been a tipping point? >> i think there will be changes. what's important to remember is that not to look at this like the health care debate where you have some giant bill that covers most of the bases. look at this as a first step that should be a step among many steps. so that whatever comes of this, whether you get the assault weapons ban or not, whatever you get is a push closer to something that is a solution that to do absolutely nothing. >> do you see this as more of a setup for the elections in 2014 and 2016? >>n part. i think the white house is going to try to hit a sweet spot on this. they want something that is sort of pod rat enough and in certain ways minor enough that it has some actual chance of passing
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the senate and the house and something that seems reasonable enough that in the fairly high likely scenario that it doesn't pass, they can take it to the public in 2014 and 2016 and say, here is another example of republican intransigence. what's on the table right now seems to be some combination of tougher background checks, the ban on high capacity magazines you mentioned and so on. i think that charles and i probably agree that both of those are unlikely to make a big difference in terms of gun violence overall. i think the background check legislation is in certain ways more promising than the ban on assault weapons that a lot of liberals are interested in. we had a ban on assault weapons and it had no discernible impact. they might have impact on the shooting. some is accidental violence but rises in suicide rates since the
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great recession. if you delay and make somebody wait a few days before they get a gun, if they are a hardened criminal, that's not going to make any difference. if they are someone thinking about sue sad, if you think of it as a public issue, that might be something. >> i have read a lot of studies about suicide. even if you delay somebody a few minutes or seconds, that can be the difference of whether or not somebody follows through. it is sort of counterintuitive. even a few minutes can make a huge difference. ross, charles, appreciate you being on. up next, the student accused of opening fire at a california high school. tonight, how a teacher stepped in to stop the attack. we'll be right back. love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work
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welcome back. i don't want to shoot you might be the last words that teacher, ryan heb echl r ever heard. i don't want to shoot you. he might have gone on to shoot others. he might have but he didn't. more of the remarkable story. >> reporter: what happened inside taft union high school began as a plan the day before. in the mind of a bullied 16-year-old boy. authorities say it was here at his home a few blocks from the high school where he gathered his brother's shotgun and two dozen rounds and walked into the science building midway through first period. >> we have video of him entering the school, trying to conceal the shotgun. the video shows that he is extremely nervous. >> reporter: officers say the boy walked to the front of his classroom and opened fire striking a 16-year-old classmate
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at near point blank range. students began to flee trying to hide in closets and walk out of the room. another target, another 16-year-old boy. he tells us that the gunman began calling out a name. >> the student popped up his head from hypbehind from where was hiding and apologized. >> for what? >> for apologizing. >> then, the freshman teacher stepped in between the shotgun and the student and spoke to the boy like his friend. investigators say, the boy told heber i don't want to shoot you. the school's counselor, tim fields, helped to distract the gunman while the rest of the students escaped. >> this teacher and this counselor stood there face to face not knowing whether he was going to turn that shotgun on them. whatever he said compelled him
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to put the shotgun down. >> h eceber was shot in the hea. his father says he always thinks of others first. there is no pain. he is just fine physically. he is absolutely super. mentally, he is dealing with the day. he says it is the worst day of his life, which you could imagine. >> he bechltber spoke with me b declined to speak on the phone. he said he is a teacher. his father uses the term hero but he says he cannot stang that word. >> thank you for that story. the flu epidemic. a sneeze like you have never seen it before. you are going to want to see this. be roux it back. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief.
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in case you are wondering whether to get a flu shot, i have three things to say, california, hawaii, and mississippi. those are the only three states in the country where the flu is not widespread. the only three states still relatively, and i say relatively untouched by the flu. with that in mind, we are going to show you one way that it spreads. take a look as randi kaye presents the anatomy of the sneeze. >> reporter: with the flu so widespread, riding the subway makes new yorkers think twice. we asked dr. len horowitz to ride the rails with us and help us understand the power of a single cough or sneeze. all it takes is one good atchoo to send more than 40,000 drop lets be let barreling in your direction. they can make commuters very
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sick. if someone used a hand to cover his sneeze, they are going to leave the germs along and i am going to pick them up without knowing it. then, say maybe i come over here and touch my hand to the seat, i'm going to leave those germs behind for the next unsuspecting commuter. it spreads from there. >> dr. who are rhorowitz says g so hearty, they can stay here overnight. >> somebody else gets on here, touches their face and they have got it. >> that could mean hundreds, thousands of people end up sick. >> i carry my hand sanitizer in my purse. >> some riders touch their face, rub their eyes, maybe even eat before ever washing their hands. >> when you touch your face, you are smearing the germ on to your face and any opening is a place
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a bizarre story out of chicago. a man that won $1 million and was dead a month later. it was originally ruled natural causes but prompting from a relative showed a lethal amount of cyanide in his system. a judge ruled that his body will be exhumed for more testing. martin savidge has been investigating the case. >> the test came in to exhume the body and the judge ruled yes almost immediately. >> mainly because there were no objections. nobody objected. as a result of that, it seemed like a clear path for law enforcement to take and the judge approved. i also know for having conversations with the widow,
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she goes along with that. >> they have already run tests on the blood and tissue samples that they had and that's how they determined it was a homicide. what more do they hope to find out, how the poison got into his body? >> yes. when he died, originally, this was ruled as natural causes. now that they know it was a homicide, you do a much more different autopsy and thorough investigation of the body. they never did that. they are going to go back. they have the or from the judge. they will dig up his body and look at the contents of the stomach and other organs and try to determine what kind of cyanide was used and how is it delivered. that's the big question. i guess it is partially determined by the state they find the body in. it was a relatively recent
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burial, wasn't it? >> that was the big question. if he has degraded a lot, that means the evidence inside of him has degraded. basically, the medical examiner told me you won't know until you go in and look. >> have the police named anyone in particular, a suspect obviously? a lot of the questions about the wife have been voiced publicly by observers. have the police said anybody is a suspect. >> no, they haven't. the police have been extremely tight-lipped about this. they won't tell you anything about the investigation other than it is a murder investigation. clearly, the widow feels that she is at the top of everybody's list when it comes to a suspect. that only adds to her personal anguish with the loss of her husband. she knows everybody is whispering and pointing fingers. she is the one that prepared the meal that was served that night. there are varying accounts as to
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whether he ate it or not. she has been intensely interviewed by authorities. the result of a search warrant was carried out on her home and a number of things were taken. we don't know exactly what. >> do you know anything about how long this poison takes to act or if it was something that could have been delivered over time or was it a one-dose thing? >> the people i have spoken to said that with the amount he injested, he would have felt the effects in minutes and death could have occurred maybe within the hour. so it is a pretty fast-acting poison. it is one of the reasons it was popular through the ages. it does what you want it to do if your intent is to kill someone. >> an amazing story. coming up, the ridiculous is next. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance?
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time for the ridic cue lis. the news anchor from ireland's rte news, that asked himself, i have some time to touch up my makeup before we are live on the air, right? the answer, sadly, was no. >> what? >> speaking as one trained broadcasting member to another, being a news anchor is serious business. one must always be in control. rule number one of live television is that one almost -- you always have to be aware of whether one is on the air or not. i have always he can selled ak
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area and never slipped up. that's the universal response, what? it is live tv. things are going to happen. knowing anything can happen at this time. right at this moment, i could -- no. it's okay. i'm good. i'm actually on tv. at any moment, i could erupt into an uncontrollable coughing fit, the power could go out or i could completely flub a story and get all tongue tied, which brings us back to our favorite rte news anchor it is 40 years since apollo 14. among those remembering the flight, his commander, his commander, i beg your pardon. let's start it again. a man has -- can we go back to the very start of that? >> yeah. i like the way he handled that. when all else fails, ask the teleprompter to take it from the top. so what if it is live? who cares.